Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Jan 21, 2011 #1 . You mentioned Fde. No need for an airbrush or other spray equipment! Hey guys! So degreaser, sandpaper/sandblaster, work bench, tape, and proper PPE are all needed for both systems. A 4 ounce can of cerakote will cost around 40 bucks or so. Re: Cerakote vs. Duracoat Cerakote is awesome. Duracoat is many times as thick and much tougher (stands up to gouges, dings, etc better), but isn't hard as there is no impregnated ceramic. Standard Duracoat can withstand temperatures up to 600 degree, but DuraHeat can withstand temperatures up to 1,800 degrees. It scuffs easily when abraded. Twelve ounces of Duracoat will coat 2 to 4 firearms depending on the guns’ sizes as well. As with every coating surface prep is everything. Cerakote. Cerakote’s parent company even offers training courses to make you a pro at Cerakote. DuraCoat will fall off or wipe clean easily, and the acid in the bath will begin to eat away at the metal. While Cerakote will run from 0.0005 to 0.002 inches, depending on the series, DuraCoat finishes can run from 0.001 to 0.008, often unevenly. People want highly customized firearms that are truly theirs. Cerakote vs Duracoat Round 5 – Conclusion. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. It is true that Cerakote is a specialized coating agent like a professional and DuraCoat is more of a home-based resolve. Email him. Cerakote is tougher but isn't is easy to apply, plus it needs to be baked to cure it which will stink up your house if you don't have a dedicated oven to use. The green rifle in the middle has a Duracoated lower receiver, a professionally Cerakoted upper receiver, and an Alumahyde II'd barrel. Duracoat does offer some rust and corrosion protection and generally are easier to clean. Keep plenty of acetone handy. This includes knives, axes, tree stands, and even equipment used for fishing. Cerakote is harder, but less tough. Duracoat can be found for around 35 dollars for 12 ounces. Cerakote is a difficult at-home application, and is really better left to professionals. Another big thing for the potential DIY gunsmith is all the requirements for applying either system. However, Duracoat does not offer much chemical resistance or impact resistance. Your email address will not be published. If you are still confused about Cerakote vs Duracoat, then do consider asking a gunsmith for this. The lower receiver is professionally Cerakoted black underneath the bronze. It’s OK if you think he’s a wimp. For example if it gets into the firing pin channel of a Glock you are gonna have a bad time. Fenix vs Surefire – Which Is Better? Cookies help us deliver our Services. A ceramic base is a very hard and very strong finish that can be applied to metal, wood, and polymers. Duracoat is an air dry process… Applied to exterior metal, synthetic, and wood. It is also 1/4 the price of Duracoat and maybe 1/10th as much as Cerakote to apply professionally. It smells like butt when you are spraying it too. Both will need a good degreaser and the ability to strip the old finish from the gun. Stock comes Camo from McMillian. Both offer expansive amount of different colors and they give you colors, colors, colors. Applied to the exterior of metal, plastic, wood, or polymer surfaces. Custom firearm finishes Duracoat and Cerakote have had a vicious little war, and both have their strengths and weaknesses. Weigh the pros and cons above, talk to a knowledgeable friend or gunsmith, and take your pick! Today, Google searches on each of these two product names produces exclusively results related to that specific product — and surprisingly enough the same thing happens with several other major brands where I know competing ads used to be common — so perhaps the Duracoat vs Cerakote feud has played a part in encouraging Google to clean up the algorithm used to select search results … Duracoat is a much better at home application for DIY designers. Being able to customize guns, gear, and more is one of the best parts about this industry. Where as Cerakote is more involved, and supposedly much more durable as far as resistance to oils, solvents, and the like. Ok, I'm trying to decide between having my G23 either Hydro Dipped or Cerakoted? Required fields are marked *, Nic Industries, Inc. Cerakote Air-Dry Ceramic Coatings, Nic Industries, Inc. Cerakote Ovencure Refills. The lower receiver is professionally Cerakoted black underneath the bronze. I did that paint job in 2015 and it still looks like the day I painted it thousands of rounds later. Is there a major difference in cerakote to the other 2? I seen a vid on diy cerakote but it requires a sand blaster. (ANSWERED), NightForce vs Leupold Scopes – Which Are Better? Being able to change the color of your gun is one small change, but ultimately a large change. A set of ARs. Both coatings can be used for firearms of course. I find Cerakote easier to apply in areas and on parts that need to fit together, my bolts slide right back in and run like butter after Cerakote. It’s impact-resistant, chemical-resistant, and can take a savage beating and just keep going. If Cerakote gets into certain crevices it can ruin the gun. These are real classroom settings and the class sets you up to operate a business. Duracoat is the cheaper of the two. Cerakote by its nature is a much harder paint, so it will crack after any repeated flexing. The top rifle has a DIY Cerakote (no blast, just applied via airbrush to aluminum anodizing) job in the same color. Cerakote and Duracoat are different products. Cerakote is manufactured by NIC industries and is well reputed for its durability and the massive amount of color options. It takes some time to dry, which means you cannot use it for shooting until it dries out! You can coat rubber and over mold products and have great durability out of them. I feel just the opposite for the barrel and action though, Cerakote seems to have the upperhand there. Cerakote’s ceramic base, though, is extremely strong. 14 0. The bottom rifle has a professionally Cerakoted black barrel and professionally Cerakoted burnt bronze receivers, stock, and handguard. For u/Chromaa too. Duracoat requires a 12:1 ratio (you can go as low as 10:1 for a more glossy finish or up to 14:1 for a slightly flatter finish) … Unlike Duracaot, choose a custom color or two tone. Both will need a good degreaser and the ability to strip the old finish from the gun. It’s been banged around for 2-3 years now is holding up fine. About DuraCoat Lauer Custom Weaponry is a family owned and operated business committed to providing only the best firearm coatings and custom firearm finishes. Alumahyde and Duracoat look the easiest to apply (just prepping with acetone) whilst cerakote is the hardest. Oct 3, 2012 #1 . Neither is necessarily better or worse than the other and, properly done, neither should have any issues with wear in normal use. CMitchum41 New Member. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. This does raise the requirements significantly. Cerakote will last for years of hard use. Both Duracoat and Cerakote are proven finishes that can really spice things up. The one thing Duracoat has above Cerakote is its flexibility. However, Cerakote cannot be layered. Duracoat has a smoother finish that would probably stay on the synthetic stocks better. It does not cure as fast as the MFG states, BUT it does hold up when prepped and applied correctly! He loads both revolvers with old-school 148-grain Federal Gold Medal .38 wadcutters. Cerakote is a polymer ceramic coating. I know that many neat things can be down with coating now a days. Duracoat is pretty simple to apply and is done almost like spray paint. It is either matte or metallic matte. Cerakote is a ceramic, Duracoat is a two-part chemical more akin to an epoxy. Duracoat is easier and looks nicer then cerakote but isn't as tough as cerakote. Duracoat is very tough and very easy to apply when you're using the aerosol kind. Personalizing a firearm with a new finish is one excellent way to customize your firearm the way you want it. Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by Trip83, Oct 3, 2012. Another simple thing that makes life easy is a set of metal measuring spoons with 1 tablespoon and 1/4, 1/2, and 1 teaspoon . Talking to … You can get really deep into gun customization if you are artistically inclined. It won’t change how the gun is handled or how it will run, but it will change how it looks. Now you can refinish your firearm in as easy as 1-2-3 with the exclusive Prep 'N Spray™ system. Owner of Reloaderaddict.com, Boyd Smith is a major handgun enthusiast, and although he owns Glocks, he prefers the revolving wheel type. I did take the time to make an oven, I have like 200 dollars into it with electronic controls and everything. Here’s my 9mm in Magpul fde. Buy Duracoat Ez Finishing Kit Instructional Dvd And 45 Vs 9mm Ammo Price Reddit D Remember when Ford used to only have black as an option? That’s basically all you need for Duracoat. Another big thing for the potential DIY gunsmith is all the requirements for applying either system. Aluma hyde is easier to install. Cerakote vs Duracoat Round 4: Application Requirements. I know this has been discussed on every other forum out there, but I couldn't find it here and you guys I trust. Hydo Dip vs Cerakote Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by CMitchum41, Jul 31, 2013. I'd use far less than the smallest size available, so the extra $20 is worth it to me for a better color. Because black or stainless steel is kind of boring. Re: duracote vs. cerakote vs. hydrodip Hey, I have a custom finish shop in AZ, have been spraying Duracoat and Cerakote for several years. Another thing to look at is the thickness. How long did that last? Duracoat and Aluma Hyde are about the same as far as durability. I own or have access to the equipment needed for the air cure Cerakote. I’m familiar with Cerakote, but not DuraCoat. Let’s face it: four Glock 19’s are a lot different than one Barrett .50 cal. I spray Duracoat with a airbrush but they have it in a two part spray can now. Cerakote adheres fine to the original anodizing. The stock you have is already gonna be resistant, so the camo is purely cosmetic and can always be done later. Trip83 Member. His go-to guns are a Smith & Wesson 642 Performance Center for carry and a Ruger GP100 in the nightstand biometric safe (he has kids). Never had any reason to cerakote a scope, they come with a pretty good finish. (ANSWERED), Monocular vs Binoculars – Which Are Better? This has also been used for 3 gun so there is plenty of abuse getting thrown into dump barrels and such. Cerakote’s name is what hides its base. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you prep it right it will last a long time. This is a permanent coating that comes in a massive amount of colors and the end user can customize their firearm in almost anyway they want. It not only protects your firearm from rust but from just about everything (you dropping your 1911 into a volcano doesn’t count). If you are going to duracoat it, make sure you really like whatever color you choose. From my experience with both I would prefer not to have a cerakoted stock to me the ceramic in the cerakote feels a little bit like really fine sandpaper. Any input would be greatly appreciated - specifically as it relates to which coating you believe is best. Duracoat gets a bad rap due to impatience mostly. But then i seen duracoat do a aerosol can, does duracoat hold up good? Cerakote is a ceramic based finish that’s designed to protect, as well as let you customize your firearm. The gun industry is changing. These coatings in general are excellent for any outdoor tool. I looked at the Duracoat and AlumaHyde II, and, although my plane will never be a show plane, I just like the colors that Cerakote has a lot better. Duracoat. What you also have to consider is most of the more bright and light colors require a white base to properly apply. So we are all sitting on a particular budget. Acetone is the thinner for duracoat. (For example, camo). This rifle was DIY Duracoated in FDE. Cerakote will last forever, but is much harder to apply. The reason being is of course ceramic is expensive. Cerakote vs Duracoat for Rem 870 Tact. 1,159 0 0. This is for a 300 WM rebarrel, true action, & new stock. This is enough to coat one gun. Cerakote vs. Anodizing Cerakote doesn’t affect fatigue properties of aluminum alloys Due to chemicals used in the process, anodizing offers a very limited color selection while Cerakote offers over 200 unique colors. 41 0 6. A firearms finish should always protect the gun. Duracoat, on the other hand, is a chemical based finish that requires two parts to finish. Both system can utilize stencils for patterns and different designs. This is the most important thing a firearm finish does. I am refinishing a Scotty and am trying to determine the best finish to put on. When it comes to any coating, prep is going to be the key to success, so it stands to reason that if you truly want a long-lasting, durable finish, the shop that does the work is going to make more difference than the brand, especially in this case. i was wondering if anyone has experience with DuraCoat vs Cerakote. You’ll also need a paint gun, and air compressor to apply the coating. Cerakote resists abrasion better. We are the proud manufacturers of DuraCoat® Firearm Finishes and an entire line of quality products for … Your email address will not be published. Thanks for any advice. Duracoat is a two part chemical coating, but it can be applied via one can. I have been reading up on coatings for firearms. Aluma-Hyde is also easy to apply but I'm not at all impressed with its durability and I don't really use it anymore. We’ll ignore equipment requirements for now, but we’ll talk on that later. When considering budget you have to look at both products, and at the ounces per dollar you are paying. Cerakote is tougher and withstands a lot of punishment, BUT it needs to be done correctly. It is more brittle and tends to chip more easily if the substrate metal is deformed (impacts, dings) because the epoxy layer is thinner. Cerakote concentrated on ceramic finishes that were both tough as hell and customizable, and they executed this mission flawlessly. It is also 1/4 the price of Duracoat and maybe 1/10th as much as Cerakote to apply professionally. Cerakote can also ruin a gun if you don’t know what you are doing. Alumahyde is another epoxy based paint (just like Cerakote and Duracoat), but is more thinned out than Duracoat (goes on thinner) and has no additives like Cerakote does. The risk versus reward is all on you. Duracoat is dry in 1 hour, can be handled in 24 hours, but won’t fully set in for 4 to 6 weeks. Cerakote is temperature cured by baking, Duracoat can be just air dried. Cerakote is extremely strong, and the end user can customize their firearm with different custom finishes. Duracoat looks good and you can do it yourself for $40 with a kit, no special equipment needed for blasting or prep or curing. Cerakote, in contrast, is quite a bit more expensive. Duracoat is available in a variety of different strengths and different convenience type designs. The baked finished rifle does not smell like butt. I have duracoated a few rifles. Refinishing Advice - Teflon vs. DuraCoat. It requires an oven for curing the parts. This is a discussion on Refinishing Advice - Teflon vs. DuraCoat within the SIG Sauer Pistols forums, part of the SIG Sauer Forum category; I'm planning to have my P228 refinished, and while I originally had my eyes set on a matte black Teflon finish I … DuraCoat® Shake 'N Spray™ Finishing Kit is the simplest and most user-friendly firearm finish available! I have an airbrush gun on the way and plan to purchase a toaster oven for heating it. I'm just tickled pink with the whole process and end result with Cerakote vs the Duracoat. Cerakote is a ceramic based finish that can be applied to metals, plastics, polymers, and wood. Duracoat can be applied at home, where as Cerakote requires a type of "certified service center" you need to send your gun to in order to get it applied, because it's a more involved process. What is Cerakote? I tried to remove the finish off of one, but there are no chemical strippers that will take it off easily. It scratches fairly easy. Cerakote looks nicer. It’s truly impressive what you can do to customize your firearm. Between those three for an at home DIY job I'd pick Duracoat all day. Cerakote vs. Duracoat Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by DarinCraft, Jan 21, 2011. Alumahyde is another epoxy based paint (just like Cerakote and Duracoat), but is more thinned out than Duracoat (goes on thinner) and has no additives like Cerakote does. The first coating being the color or finish you choose and the second being a clear coat. Cerakote is a whole other beast. Let’s take a look at both of them, and you can make the final winner in a battle of Duracoate vs Cerakote: Cerakote vs DuracoatRound 1: What Are They?! Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Jul 31, 2013 #1 . Obviously, it may not coat that Barrett .50 cal, but it’s likely enough to coat your AR 15. I’m being advised DPC. So why get a Duracote or Cerakote finish? To be clear, the Duracoat vs. Cerakote vs. Hydrographics debate is about three completely separate processes and each provides the ideal solution for individual unique goals and applications. My 3 gun AR is cerakoted in OD. Cerakote prices seem like what you would normally run in to, seems way high for a hydro dip camo. So degreaser, sandpaper/sandblaster, work bench, tape, and proper PPE are all needed for both systems. These coatings allow you to customize your gun, but also help protect your tools finish and design. Cerakote holds up. The important thing is the prep. That being said there are some Cerakote finishes that no longer require an oven, but they do require 5 days to fully cure. Unlike anodizing that is known for its drastic color inconsistencies, Cerakote colors are held to a consistency standard of a Delta E of 1 or less. DarinCraft New Member. Pineville, Louisiana. What is the best out of the 3? Press J to jump to the feed. Once it sets up it is one tough finish. Seriously, we’ve gone hundreds of years of guns that are black or stainless steel with little variety. A bit hard to work with if you lack an appropriate sized over but is insanely durable. Let's look at some pictures. 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